Recent Poldark Rape Controversy

*SPOILERS! DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED EPISODE 8*

While most of the fans seemed to have calmed, some in the media still seem to be out for blood when it comes to the Poldark episode 8 “rape scene”. I would highly recommend that they let it go due to their sensationalizing it and due to the fact that they are slightly putting it out of context.  Whether of not it was or was not rape is up to the viewer, and I cannot make that determination for them and they cannot make that determination for me. However, what we can do is go over the scene and some thing that may have bearing on what happens in the scene.

First of all, language has changed since the 1940s and 50s when the books were written. It certainly has since the 18th century when the books are set.  Language had quite a few more subtleties than it does today, and meaning for some things has certainly changed. No still means no, but in a second you will see what I am getting at. So Ross has had a bad couple of days. In all truth I don’t think I have seen that character be good at anything. He was bad at delinquency, soldiering, mining, and now being a husband. Still we were sort of willing to forgive all that because he was sort of the champion for the common man, and there were few enough of those in that era. He represented the man who was willing to fight for the common man. He did some really stupid things in order to do some but did so nonetheless.

So we have Ross and his “bad days”. He then learns that his former love, Elizabeth, is about to marry his mortal enemy (yes, he has mortal enemies. I wonder if he keeps a list like Sheldon Cooper?) George Warleggen. He is incensed by this because he knows that Elizabeth is doing this just to raise his ire. So he goes to her house in the dead of night and starts banging on the doors. It would have been good at that point if she had gone down stairs and met him in the drawing room if she didn’t want him in her bedroom. She knew he was there, heard him clearly, was not worried that he was there. Even Aunt Agatha knew he was there. So things might have played out differently if she had gone down to meet him.

Then he goes up stairs and finds her in her room. He does not come in at first, she tells him to wait while she gets a candle and they go down stairs. However, he comes in. She does not stop him. If she had wanted him out of there she would have said something to the point of, “What, are you deaf from banging your head on rocks too many times in the mine?! Downstairs!” If she had said that he probably would have gotten the message. He still would have been angry, but it would have played out differently.

Then she challenges him. And we’ll get to other challenges in a minute, but this is at least the second one. She asks his if he would do anything to keep her from being a widow for many long years? Note that her mother had just suffered a stroke, her husband had just died, and Ross was her first love. A man she probably would have married if she had known he was coming back from the war (the American Revolution). Basically she is saying, “will you provide for me and my child, despite the fact that you are still married?” That in itself is scandalous since she is suggesting that he either divorce or commit adultery, neither of which people in the era, or god at the time would look kindly upon.

Then their frustrations boil over, he kisses her and she doesn’t respond well. She says, “you would not dare.” Now what is the operative word we need to be looking at there, kids? That’s right, “dare”. A dare is a challenge, and this is in fact the third challenge she has given him. And probably when she says dare, it really means, “I wonder if he will?”  Let’s talk about these challenges for a moment. The first one was where she tells him, “downstairs” and he comes into the bedroom anyway. That’s the first, “I wonder if he will?” The second is when she encourages him to be her mate, “I wonder if he will?” The third is when she says, “you would not dare.” Yes this is a challenge, it is also quite different from, “no, I don’t want to”, or , “please don’t, I don’t want to,” or in fact anything like that.

The he throws her on the bed and starts kissing her and she kisses him passionately and continually back. That doesn’t happen with rape. It would be at this point that she would try and push him off, kick him, bite him, scream for Aunt Agatha who has a gun, or could certainly go out and find help. Aunt Agatha knows what’s happening! She’s basically in the next room! So what I see is a man and a woman engaging in what happens after years of watching and wanting. Suffering ad frustration. Acknowledging that they would have been with each other if things had been different. This isn’t the terrible thing some think it is. It’s people being human, for goodness sake!

The the next day Ross gets his freakin’ pants on, and they have a perfectly rational conversation about the consequences of THEIR actions. A lot of what I see on Elizabeth’s face there is guilt. She has had sex with a man she’s not married to, she’s caused her former love to commit adultery (both taboos and no-nos), and they have both betrayed Ross’s wife, Demelza who lost her first child caring for Elizabeth and her family when they were ill.

So there you have it. There is my analysis.

Recently I was in a Twittersation (yes, that’s what I call them), where I found something really, really offensive and sort of went off. Someone later said to me, “don’t be so reactive, you lose your voice”. This is very much true. While you may be a voice for women and rape victims, as I am, you can have a voice and be involved and helpful. However no one wants to hear a voice that is shouting rabidly in their ear. It doesn’t work out well and then no one listens to you because you’re just annoying.

Another thing that we need to be wary of is that when people find something offensive, that when a really dirty word comes into play. What’s that dirty word, kids? *puts hand to ear and listens intently* That’s right, censorship! The road to censorship is a slippery slope. Once it begins, it’s not pretty. When we go back to the days of abridging and burning books because they’re “offensive”. When we lose shows like Outlander, Game of Thrones, The Waling dead, even Supernatural, because they’re considered “offensive”.  If there is anything we have learned from Russia, China, North Korea and other countries like it, it’s censorship = bad.

I am not saying that your point of view is invalid, I am not saying that you don’t have the right to feel the way you do. All I ask is that people have the same respect for me. Also the scene is ambiguous. There are several ways in which it can be interpreted. There’s not just your way, and you should just take the word of media sensationalism. In all truth I am not a great fan of Poldark. I find it exceedingly boring at times, but I felt I still had to speak. Thank you for listening.

Amusing Things You Will See in “Poldark”.

Hello again all! A few months ago, I was able to catch the BBC drama “Poldark”. Actually I found it quite interesting, though that is not usual fare for me. The scenery is lovely and the story is certainly fascinating. The characters are interesting, and very true to the era in which the story is set. So all in all, it’s very worth a view if you have not seen it already. Go find it on PBS, you can buy it on DVD, and you can probably stream it from Netflix or something. Very worth viewing.

Of course this is the third posting in my “Amusing Things” series, so most of what you will find here are jokes that I will hope you will find funny. Just know that all of these are done out of love and jest, though some of them may seem harsh. Poldark stars Aidan Turner, Eleanore Tomlinson, Kyle Soller, Heida Reed, Warren Clarke, Ruby Bentall, and several other great and lovely actors. Also thanks to BBC 1, Mammoth Screen, and PBS. Thank you for reading, and I do hope you enjoy.

Let’s kick it off with a Red Coat!

Aidan Turner as Ross Poldark.

Aidan Turner as Ross Poldark.

Here’s a little song for him!

Having a keen sense of the obvious.

Aidan Turner and Kyle Soller As Ross and Francis.

Aidan Turner and Kyle Soller As Ross and Francis.

Sleeping beauty with a healthy fear of Anne Rice!

Aidan Turner.

Aidan Turner.

Idiot face!

Kyle Soller as Francis Poldark.

Kyle Soller as Francis Poldark.

Mr Toad of Toadhall.

Warren Clarke as Chales Poldark.

Warren Clarke as Chales Poldark.

A twenty-five year old spinster!

Ruby Bentall as Verity Poldark.

Ruby Bentall as Verity Poldark.

Idiots dueling.

Kyle Soller, Aidan Turner, Ruby Bentall, Warren Clarke and Richard Harrinton.

Kyle Soller, Aidan Turner, Ruby Bentall, Warren Clarke and Richard Harrinton.

Working for a living!

Beatie Edney as Prudie and Phil Davis as Jud Paynter.

Beatie Edney as Prudie and Phil Davis as Jud Paynter.

Being fused to your horse!

Aidan Turner as Ross Poldark.

Aidan Turner as Ross Poldark.

The best decision he ever made. And some Star Wars-ian humor.

Aidan Turner and Eleanor Tomlinson as Ross and Demelza.

Aidan Turner and Eleanor Tomlinson as Ross and Demelza.

Rich witches…Or is that with a “b”?

Eleanor Tolinson, Harriet Ballard, Heida Reed, and Mary Woodvine.

Eleanor Tolinson, Harriet Ballard, Heida Reed, and Mary Woodvine.

Seriously, I think this is what they turn into at night.

Here for your souls

A broken heart…

Aidan Turner cradling Baby Julia.

Aidan Turner cradling Baby Julia.

True love.

Aidan Turner and Eleanor Tolinson as Ross and Demelza.

Aidan Turner and Eleanor Tolinson as Ross and Demelza.

Getting thrown in the slammer for something you may have done…(allegedly)…

Aidan Turner getting arrested.

Aidan Turner getting arrested.

A song for Ross and Demelza.

Well, that’s it for now!! I hope you enjoyed this posting. The next one will be either Star Wars or The Lord of the Rings. If you have a preference, let me know! Leave a comment, “vote for Star Wars” or “Vote for LOTR” and I will tally them up in a couple of days and get on it ASAP. I gots stuff to do though, so it may be a week to a couple of weeks as usual!! Anyway, I shall see you then!!

Aidan Turner Shirtless Scything: Sexism or Just Something That Happened That Women Love?

Hello ladies and gents!! Just thought I would give an honest opinion on something concerning the Lovely actor Aidan Turner since it still seems to be everywhere. I was cruising around on Facebook in one of my groups, one dedicated to Aidan Turner, and I came across this article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11561120/Poldarks-Elizabeth-Aidan-Turner-topless-obsession-is-sexist.html#disqus_thread . Usually I don’t read these kinds of things, but I decided to give it a look. I won’t say I was surprised, but I will say that I found it interesting on several levels and this was my original comment via the group:

Okay, here is the first reason why this is ridiculous. The term “reverse sexism” is absolute crap. There is no such thing. Sexism is sexism and it applies to anything/one. Just like the term “reverse racism” is bull. Goes which ever way, racism is racism. Also there is the fact that it’s about time that women started objectifying a man, as it’s usually the other way around. Women objectify men much less than men objectify women. Suggesting this is wrong because it is a man is just silly. I mean let’s go for a little equality in harmless objectification. I mean it’s not like we are demanding that we want him to go around with his shirt off all the time. Nor are we asking that he take it all off in anything more than jest. Women’s sexual wants are no less than mens, we just express them less publicly and not all the time. I mean when you think about it, there are far more magazines in the stores with women hanging out of clothing than men. Anyway, a mere opinion. And one would think that he would be a bit flattered. “People like me, hopefully body and soul. I should be happy of that. And if it’s just body for now, so it goes. It’s still recognition.”

Now that I consider this, it is both true and not true. While he is getting exposure, so to say, it is not necessarily the exposure he wants. Then again there is the old saying that, “any publicity is good publicity”. Again, both true and not true. While Aidan Turner is at a point where he is on the edge of  the “wide exposure/discovery” stage of his career, as before “The Hobbit” and “Poldark”, most people within the United States (and some other countries) might not have known him very well, he runs the risk of being know for a very long time as “half naked scything guy from “Poldark”” (sorry Aidan, had to go there). He may be at the point where he is trying to decide if that is what he wants. He could end up in the same vortex as Mark Hamill who will always be Luke Skywalker, William Shatner who will always be Captain Kirk, or  any other number of actors who will only be therefore identified with one role or type of role. Aidan probably wants to be seen as more versatile, as he is more versatile than that. There is a lot of potential in Aidan, and he wants to express that. Maybe he will go on to be James Bond, or an action star, or take on comedic roles. If he is going to do that, he has to paint himself as something more than a British period series sex symbol.

Aidan Turner in the BBC show "Poldark" Scything and asking the fundamental question.

Aidan Turner in the BBC show “Poldark” Scything and asking the fundamental question.

However, the above statement that I made is not completely wrong either. Women are far more objectified than men are. The fact that women are taking an interest in a sexy guy and letting it be known should not be a shocking thing. And in some ways I think he should be a bit flattered. Most people would enjoy a bit of mild fawning over their sexiness. I know that if I were a bit more sexy, I would want a bit of attention. Then again, too much is too much, and we should all be respectful. Aidan works hard, is proud of his work, and he thinks focus should be on more than just his sexy physique. That’s a good thing. They should all be proud of “Polark”. It was a good series, it was interesting, people seemed to like it, be proud!! But it cannot be denied that if they hadn’t had Aidan, and they hadn’t utilized him…So to say…The show probably would not have been as successful as it was.

One cannot deny that Aidan Turner is a sexy man. I still think he should be named “People Magazines” Sexiest Man Alive!! I mean, if they can make Chris Hemsworth the Sexiest man Alive… He has a bright future ahead of him, and it will be interesting to see how his career plays out. I do not think that his stint at scything will be anything other than good for him, and it certainly cannot be considered a “bad thing”. Do I believe it is sexism? Maybe it is. More than anything, if it is a respectful admiration of something beautiful, then perhaps not. Appreciating something for it’s beauty is not necessarily sexist. When people are disrespectful and degrade it, that is the point where it turns to sexism. Personally I am of the opinion that everyone should keep their clothing on. Taking off one’s clothing, hanging out of it, or just not caring about states of undress merely defeats the purpose of clothing…So either go with or go without.

As for Aidan…He can go with, go without, hang out in his Kili costume. Whatever floats your boat. It won’t change the fact that he’s still a very attractive man, and if we choose to fawn, so we will.

Thank you for reading!! I hope to hear from you!! Now for a relevant song…Or somehow I feel it is…